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Bitcoin is a ‘super logical’ step on the tech tree: OpenAI CEO

During an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Altman expressed his excitement for Bitcoin and also said he was “super against” CBDCs.

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman has called Bitcoin (BTC) a "super logical" step on the tech tree, which is both free of government control while helping to fight corruption.

"I’m excited about Bitcoin,” Altman told Joe Rogan during an Oct. 6 episode of The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

“I think this idea that we have a global currency that is outside of the control of any government is a super logical and important step on the tech tree."

The OpenAI boss' wide-ranging interview with Rogan covered his thoughts on Bitcoin as a world reserve currency and his concerns about central bank digital currencies (CBDCs).

Altman, who also serves as founder of Worldcoin, said the shift to a “technologically enabled world,” including Bitcoin, could help reduce corruption.

“One of the things that I've observed, obviously many other people too, is corruption is such an incredible hindrance to getting anything done in a society to make it forward progress,” said Altman.

“But in a world where payments, for example, are no longer like bags of cash but done somehow digitally and somebody, even if you're using Bitcoin, can like watch those flows," he said, adding:

“I think that's like a corruption reducing thing."

Meanwhile, Rogan expressed his own optimism for Bitcoin despite skepticism of the wider cryptocurrency industry, saying he believes it can become a “universal viable currency.”

“The real fascinating crypto is Bitcoin. To me, that's the one that I think has the most likely possibility of becoming a universal viable currency. It's limited in the amount that there can be [and] people mine it with their own [computer].”

“That to me is very fascinating. I love the fact that it's been implemented,” Rogan added.

Altman, however, has been a long supporter of Bitcoin well before the podcast. In a blog post dated 10 years ago, Altman argued that a world transacting in Bitcoin would be more transparent.

“A world where we all transact in Bitcoin would be much more transparent, and financial transparency is great. It’s perhaps the thing that would most reduce corruption,” Altman said.

Rogan, Altman ‘very worried’ about CBDCs, slams U.S. war on crypto

Meanwhile, both Altman and Rogan said they were “super against” CBDCs and expressed worry about the United States becoming a surveillance state.

Rogan argued that CBDCs could give governments even more control over how people spend their money:

“I'm very worried about central bank digital currency and that being tied to a social credit score. That scares the shit out of me. The push to that is not for the overall good of society, that's for control.”

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Altman added he hasn’t been impressed with how the U.S. government has treated the cryptocurrency industry recently:

“There's many things that I’m disappointed that the U.S. government has done recently, but the war on crypto, which I think is a like, we can’t give this up, like we’re going to control this and all that. That's the thing that makes me quite sad about the country,” he said.

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World’s biggest podcaster Joe Rogan has a ‘lot of hope’ for crypto

The controversial podcaster said that crypto will either “fall apart completely,” or will give society an opportunity to come up with a "better way to live our lives.”

Controversial comedian and commentator Joe Rogan said that he “has a lot of hope” for cryptocurrencies in a recent podcast interview.

In the 1760th Jan. 8 episode of his podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” Rogan discussed the future of crypto with fellow podcaster, Adam Curry. Rogan’s podcast has an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, despite Spotify’s attempts to censor some of the more offensive episodes.

Rogan, whose podcast took the top spot as most popular on Spotify during 2021, stated:

“It’s either going to fall apart completely, or we’re going to use this as an opportunity to right the ship and come up with a better way to live our lives,”

Curry is the host of right-wing podcast “No Agenda” which has been criticized by the mainstream media and medical community for promoting conspiracy theories.

Curry explained that “there is a whole slew of young people who are just opting out, and they are moving to build parallel systems and parallel networks,” before adding, “I’m on the Bitcoin train because I believe my money is safer there.”

“The money system is broken. It causes inflation, it causes misery, it causes wars because it is linked to oil.”

Rogan’s vision for the Metaverse

Rogan and Curry also discussed the possibilities of a “Silicon-Valley-controlled” digital Metaverse, and the potential role of NFTs in this space.

Rogan theorized a future where companies come up with their own digital tokens which customers would need to use to purchase their products.

“Apple could easily do that,” Rogan said, “you would buy coins, and through those coins you would buy products… It’s almost like another version of stocks or something.”

However, Curry wasn’t convinced, saying “that’s not the plan,” and he expects powerful institutions and governments will instead set their sights on central bank digital currencies (CBDCs).

“You will have crypto. You will have a digital wallet. It will be directly from the Federal Reserve to you. And there will be little retail banking - that just won't happen anymore.”

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Despite the podcasters’ positive appraisal of crypto, many members of the community remained skeptical. In a Reddit post to the r/Cryptocurrency subreddit, one user “thenudelman” commented, “An endorsement from Captain Pseudoscience. Coulda done without it.” Another user, “Dubsy 101” added, “He's an idiot and the last person we want associated with Crypto.”

Both Rogan and Curry have proved to be highly controversial figures in the crypto space and beyond. Rogan is known for his vocal rejection of “political correctness” and has received criticism in the past for making racist, sexist, and transphobic jokes.

In July 2021, CashApp paid Rogan to tell his listeners to buy Bitcoin (BTC), and he accepted a BTC payment of $100,000 in November.

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